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just read this article about a movie version of the moon is a harsh mistress, by one of the harry potter producers.
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could be an interesting movie, haven't read this one...
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could be an interesting movie, haven't read this one...
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Re: moon is a harsh mistress movie
Sat, September 18, 2004 - 2:51 AMYeah, I just read that myself! I must say that I am very jazzed at that particular writer & at least one of the 2 producers mentioned doing this - they've both proven they can do a fine job with sci-fi/fantasy material. I'm still very worried about who they'll get to direct & star, though. And about whether anything worth the bother will make it past the editing the *studios* impose on it.
_Moon_ is a highly political story, about the nature of freedom & what must be done to create & maintain it. It is also another
story in which nonmonogamous relationships play a big part - I wonder how they'll go about cutting that aspect utterly out of the script...
I wish I could say I wondered *IF* they would, but alas, I find the inclusion of that particular theme stunningly unlikely - even though I can't imagine the story working without it. I sure hope I'm wrong about them cutting it, though!
It's actually, IMHO, one of Admiral Bob's 4 or 5 best books - I highly recommend it. A perfect example of how he combined telling a rollicking good story with making people think. -
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Sun, September 19, 2004 - 1:19 AM
It was the first of his books that I ever read, and I was in love by the end of the first half-hour. I still consider it one of his best, and sincerely hope that if a movie is made that they do not compromise or play fast and loose with the real story lines (and just make some superficial action-flick out of it). -
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Sun, September 26, 2004 - 10:46 AMI loved that book.
& certainly it could politically affect a audience that might not think about politcs much in a provacative way.... it did me!
But I do hope that they don't use it to present lotsa skin, tongue etc close ups. I'm not a prude, conmin' from the generation I did, lol, but I do get BOredddd watching tongue mucous drips & unknown writhing parts -
unless it's a good Chinese flick... say like Wan Kar Gai, ymmm
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Re: moon is a harsh mistress movie
Fri, October 8, 2004 - 6:38 PMIf it pushes through, I strongly STRONGLY recommend....
Diego Luna as Manuel O'Keefe!!!
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Sat, October 9, 2004 - 12:26 AM"Diego Luna as Manuel O'Keefe!!!"
Had to do an IMDb search for this this Diego feller, not having noticed him in Dark City (assuming it's the Dark City with Richard O'Brien in it), nor seen him in anything else, nor really even heard of him much...
IMO, he's *way* too young. Manny, at least by the impression I always had, should be at least in his mid-to-late 30's, maybe even early 40's, ~not~ his middle 20's; & this guy, at 25, also *looks* about _15_, if the picture I saw was recent...
Manny is SO *not* a "pretty boy," teeny-bopper-bait character!
And I assume that, for the character's name, you meant "...as Manuel Garcia O'KELLY Davis"?
O;-)
As to whom I *would* cast... Hmm. Have to really think about it with the book in front of me (& my copy's currently MIA), but off the top of my head...
Possibly Andy Garcia as Manny?
Tom "Tiny" Lister or Michael Clarke Duncan as Shorty M'Krum...
Sir Ian McKellan would be ideal as the Professor, but he may be too identified with Gandalf & Magneto... lessee... John Hurt, maybe?
Mike's "Adam Selene" avatar is a toughie, as are both Wyoh Knott & Hazel Stone. Gotta think about those.
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Re: moon is a harsh mistress movie
Thu, October 28, 2004 - 7:22 PMIn that case why not Benicio del Toro as Manny?
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Fri, November 5, 2004 - 12:37 PMBenicio would be awesome.
Moon is my 2nd favorite Heinlein book (although there's a big drop off after SISL), and wasn't it the next one he wrote after SISL?
Anyway, given what happened to Starship Troopers, I shudder to think what it'll be like.
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Re: moon is a harsh mistress movie
Mon, November 15, 2004 - 6:48 PMYes...Starship Poopers is more like it.
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Tue, November 16, 2004 - 9:52 AMNow, now, STarship Troopers is not a terrible movie. I actually thought it was quite fun. True, it was a terrible adaptation, but that's a different story altogether.
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Fri, May 6, 2005 - 11:53 PM> I actually thought it was quite fun. True, it was a terrible adaptation, but that's a different story altogether.
I think that, in some ways, the Starship Troopers movie functions as a *critique* of what some think of as Heinlein's worst moment.
Now, as I hear the knives coming out, please bear in mind, I personally loved Heinlein's books - he was my philosophical father as I grew up - but tho he was groundbreaking in some ways and certainly told a good yarn, he was also a product of his time and reflected some of the weaknesses of that time. Spider Robinson, a younger writer who was compared to him a lot, wrote about this with better clarity than I can here. I forget the name of the essay - "The Trouble with Heinlein" or something like that.
anyway, the ST movie kept/emphasized all the most embarrassing things
- the "oh at least I lived long enough to do you, Johnny" death scene, and similar violent-hero-worship melodrama.
- the 50s-xenophobia bug-eyed-alien-paranoia kitsch that was brought to its logical conclusion in invading somebody else's planet and trying to kill everything in sight (metaphor for imperialism/colonialism)
- the WW2-fascist-like crisp-creased-uniform scenes that seem to represent the society the characters inhabit.
I think a lot of it was very tongue-in-cheek - possibly without even the producers' awareness of it (tho it might've been simple incompetence & I'm reading in too much - we'll prolly never know). Significantly, the director was Dutch. For historical reasons, no one hates militarist-fascism -nor is more qualified to critique it from up close -than the Dutch. Its probably even more relevent in the Bush era.
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Fri, May 6, 2005 - 10:34 PMy'know who would've done a great Hazel Stone in her appearance in books later in the timeline, when she had grandkids (the Rolling Stones, etc) would have been Ruth Gordon, who was Maude in Harold and Maude..
She woulda been great pulling a laser pistol out of her skirt, debating space operas with her precocious grandkids.. -
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Fri, May 6, 2005 - 11:13 PMWyoh? Uma Thurman.
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Sat, May 7, 2005 - 3:20 AMI enjoyed the Starship Troopers movie, but merely as a Ramboesque "Earth vs. the Bugs" movie, NOT as "Starship Troopers".
Hey, does anyone know if the old Space Cadet series is available on DVD?
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 2:49 AMPuh-leeeeeeez
Give Angelina Jolie a break
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Re: moon is a harsh mistress movie
Mon, September 12, 2005 - 2:09 PMHas anyone heard anything new on this since the original thread some months back?
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Tue, October 11, 2005 - 2:07 PMIf Hollywood butchers this movie like they butchered Startship Troopers, I may just have to kill somebody... -
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Tue, October 11, 2005 - 2:58 PMWhy kill them?
You should just *hurt them.*
This way they wouldn't get to escape their ignominy. Let the punishment fit the crime and at least be consistent with later lessons of the Glory Road. -
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Fri, January 27, 2006 - 12:23 PMregarding Starship Troopers, that book shaped nearly all of my political viewpoints. rah's idea's may have been tough, but there's no faulting his logic. they were simply to well thought out with flawless examples of aplication. the movie of course bore little resemblence to the book. at least it was fun to watch though. -
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Tue, May 16, 2006 - 2:44 AMI liked the way the Starship Troopers movie seemed to ride the line between satire and exploitation so very neatly. Personally i find myself getting caught up in the gung-ho action whilst simultaneously questioning the authoritarian nature of the regime.
Rich
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