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Any guesses, anyone? A friend and I are debating.
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Re: Jubal's age
Wed, August 11, 2004 - 3:14 PMHe reminds me completely and totally of a dear friend of mine, so I've always kinda filled in him... he's 56. And he seems rather like Heinlein himself, of course...
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Re: Jubal's age
Wed, August 11, 2004 - 4:50 PMI just recently read the novel again I place him much higher. He refuses a number of sexual liaisons because he feels he is *too old* and someone in their fifties doesn't think that way usually. He is past *official retirement too as I rad it but still quite active,
I thought a minimum of mid 70's and possibly well into a healthy 80's.
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Wed, August 11, 2004 - 5:11 PMVery true, and I happily stand corrected. That was one of the things that originally drew me to him, as a pre-teen: his adults took children seriously. And now that you've pointed it out, I can't recall the last time he pinned an age at all on any of his adult characters, beyond an overall description. Then again, 40 years ago, when Stranger was written, 80 was a lot "older" than it is now. Grok?
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Wed, August 11, 2004 - 6:06 PMStranger is set in the future --though no specific dates are given-- we do know that space travel has become relatively simple and that the moon is colonized.
In the story --(I can't remember which chapters)-- there are references to Jubal being under 100 years of age and his adolescence having been during "the Harding administration" - 1921–23 (which we can presume refers to U. S. President Warren G. Harding).
Here are some other Jubal 'factoids':
In "The Number of the Beast" Jubal was a visitor to the Interuniverse Society conference...
He was also a visitor to the Lazarus Long household and agreed to accept rejuvenation if he could keep his "old" appearance...
He mentioned that his world did not experience the Nehemiah Scudder Interregnum...
In "To Sail Beyond the Sunset", we learn that Jubal was a member of the Long extended family, and was born in 1907 in time line three.
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Re: Jubal's age
Thu, August 12, 2004 - 1:14 PMAnd remember that he wrote Jubal as being born in 1907 - and RAH was born in Missouri in - yep - 1907.
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Re: Jubal's age
Wed, August 11, 2004 - 10:19 PMWow, I kind of have to agree with Pablo on this one. I think Jubal was a Centurian for the most part although at times, RAH made him seem almost ageless.
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Re: Jubal's age
Wed, August 11, 2004 - 10:42 PM
Yep, somewhat younger than 100...and older than 1000. And whenever I picture a character who most nearly represents RAH himself, Jubal comes to mind.
I love Jubal's rants. Those pages are worn in my copy.
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Sat, September 11, 2004 - 10:03 PMOkay, I know, somewhat old post, but I'm not above admitting when I'm wrong...
Page 116, in the newest copy of the unabridged addition of "Stranger", it states, "In the course of nearly a centry of gusty living he had been..." etc. Not as specific as 1907, but definately there, for the time of the book.
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Re: Jubal's age
Sat, September 11, 2004 - 10:44 PMSo if we take the datum of Jubal being not quite 100 years old in the novel and combine it with the later statement that he, like RAH, was born in 1907...can we conclude that Stranger In A Strange Land is effectively set in the present day? :-) -
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Sat, September 11, 2004 - 11:34 PM>>"can we conclude that Stranger In A Strange Land is effectively set in the present day?"<<
WHAT??? You mean that RAH would be silly enough to suggest that religion might be big-business, and petty morons in high government positions directing oppressive 'security forces' could possibly be what we should expect in this day and age????
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Sun, September 19, 2004 - 1:15 AM
"petty morons in high government positions directing oppressive 'security forces'"
ROTFL - thanks, TS! RAH fans are so damn much fun...
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Re: Jubal's age
Sat, May 7, 2005 - 12:16 AMyou left out astrologers indirectly setting policy through the head honcho's wife - anybody remember Nancy Reagan's astrologer becoming a semi-celebrity? -
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 5:32 PM> anybody remember Nancy Reagan's astrologer becoming a semi-celebrity?
Tee hee ......... I remember thinking about that the first time I read SISL - it was only a few years after that whole thing.
The only thing I've ever read that was more spookily prophetic was reading The Illuminatus Trilogy for the first time in the spring of '02, and reading about how one wall of the Pentagon was destroyed as part of "immanentizing the Eschaton", and releasing the "Soul Eater" that was trapped inside the building.
Curiouser and curiouser,
Otter
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